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Hello and welcome to Grossly Competent, the learning, development, and adulting podcast that doesn't claim to be pretty. Uh no, no. But we will happily pretend to be slightly competent. I am your host, Steve Council. I'm joined by my co-host, a man that makes juggalos look like well-adjusted members of society, Mr. Patrick Ayleshire.
SPEAKER_02I might take that as a compliment, so thank you. Well, as always, folks, Steve's opinions come with a 30-day free trial.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's a good that was pretty good. I like that one. When I was writing the juggalos thing, I was thinking to myself, are people gonna know what I'm talking about? So, lovely listeners out there, if you're unfamiliar with what a juggalow is, I highly encourage you to Google images that. And then you'll get a better impression. And I promise it's not like uh um NSFW image or something like that. It won't get you in trouble. You'll just go, oh, yep, okay, this makes more sense. And there's nothing better than a joke that needs to be explained, right? Like that's that's the best. That's the best.
SPEAKER_02And then uh when you're done looking that up, maybe sit down and watch the classic Deuce Bigelow, male gigolo.
SPEAKER_00I've never uh I've never seen it. No.
SPEAKER_02What I will just state I haven't watched it in many years. It most likely, like 95%, probably doesn't hold up well. It's with Rob Schneider.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, oh I'm familiar. I okay. I always remember the uh the trailer had something along the lines of he's like, I believe I've made a huge mistake. Yeah, and this larger woman is like, Did you say steak? Yes.
SPEAKER_02I always remember that he definitely doesn't hold up well. Um I think it was like what early 2000s where a lot of those uh old school type movies came out where and the humor uh at the top for the times, like stuff funny, but like okay, stuff that maybe wouldn't come out today in theaters.
SPEAKER_00But that is definitely one where there's it's like an example of like the comedy you're referencing would be like Shallow Hell.
SPEAKER_02Oh, like that is like Yeah, that not great.
SPEAKER_00No, right, but that is kind of what it reminds me of. I guess for as someone that has not, yeah.
SPEAKER_02God, that movie is cringe, man. Yeah. When it came out, it was like, oh god, but like there were points where it was you know, you might get a laugh or two, right? Yeah, it's not like the uh cult classics that come out after that, like Harry Potter's and such.
SPEAKER_00Oh Jesus, okay, all right. Well, hey, folks, we have ourselves a lively episode, and uh Mr. Patrick is dipping his toes in the water because I told him a little something, and I clearly we're gonna have to chat about it. But before we do that, Mr. Patrick, who is our sponsor of the week?
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SPEAKER_00This is like sponsor inception. Wow. Well, thank you so much, big customer service hold music. That's that is what a treat. Wow, absolutely incredible. Um, it is funny. Like your comment about the 14-second melody that just is like kicked on a loop. Yeah, I always I always find myself, I'm curious if you do it too, that while you're waiting on there, uh, if you can predict when the loop will kick. Like, here it is. Oh, yep, there we go. Yeah, I think it's like the way to keep yourself sane through the mundane.
SPEAKER_02Oh, for sure. I uh I love the uh I'm sure this was like a a tweet at some point or a meme someone created, but I I love the one regarding like hold music and then like the props that they come on and say, please listen carefully. Our menu options have changed, and someone says, like, oh no, I had just started to memorize all your please listen carefully. Oh, yeah, because I last time I remember hold it hitting six was gonna give me HR.
SPEAKER_00You know, like just Yes. That's such a good point. Oh, that's so I never even thought of that.
SPEAKER_02I'll I'll I'll I'll look one up. We'll put that one in the show notes uh to look at it. It's it's pretty funny. I I didn't I didn't give it the right justice, but Joe.
SPEAKER_00No, I think you did just the right amount of justice to it. Anything else, and I mean, my goodness, I'd be rolling on the floor laughing. Um well, thank you again, customer service hold music. Uh, you're always there for us in our time of we want this done now, but we need to wait. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_02I I have liked, I will say quickly, I have liked at least that there's some companies have gone to the virtual chats if you don't want to call, you can go to their website and um sometimes you're chatting with a bot, which can sometimes give you an answer, but otherwise it can be an actual person, which sometimes I just don't want to sit on the phone. If I can just hash this out over a quick message back and forth, yeah. Great.
SPEAKER_00I I totally agree, and I have actually found that a lot of times, uh, like those AI chat bots, they'll get to a point and they're like, Do you just want to talk to somebody? Yeah. I do. Is that cool with you? They're like, Yeah, we got you. Um, I I think it was last week. Shoot, no, I can't remember. It was last week or the weekend week prior, excuse me. I mentioned uh Amazon, like their customer support. Like, yeah, we were talking about like how impactful that is and good customer service and whatnot. Um that's what I used in order to get that reimbursement for or to get the reorder it was for the headphones. Um, and it was so unbelievably fast. Like, this is amazing, this is great. Like, this didn't come. Okay, cool. Doot doot doot doot done. Like, yep. Okay, I didn't have to even like pick up a phone. This is great. So I am all about that, and I know that we're probably just really leaning into um our age. Because I feel like I feel like um older generations, your Gen X, even to a point, uh, boomers, like they like that I pick up the phone and I call and I speak. Um, where you and I, just like if it's during the day or something, it's like just click the little chat thing. Hey, maybe it's because we were native to things like AOL instant messenger and things like that. I don't know. That's a conversation for a different day. Just I I don't know. I'm I'm on a rambling rant, who knows? Uh so to get me to stop talking, Mr. Patrick, what's uh what's the good word? What what do you mean what has your week been like?
SPEAKER_02Oh, you know, it's been uh pretty nice. Uh I don't know if I mentioned this on a previous episode. I know I told you about it, Steve, but uh the the uh governing bodies at my uh employer have uh jumped on board with the return to office uh protocol. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were notified a few weeks ago that starting in September, after Labor Day, the second week in September, uh, we will be uh returning office uh three days a week instead of the mandatory one. So just a couple more days. Um I'm very spoiled and and uh fortunate that the fact that I live and work downtown, so getting to work is not the issue. It's just getting in that mindset of like, oh, I'm gonna actually be in the office a couple more days. So I've already started to like vision not the work stuff, but now the home stuff. Since I had a a desk, a corner desk in my small apartment here, it's only so much room, so you have to try to kind of navigate and figure out what's the best setup, and I had my multiple monitors. I've already started to like kind of just get rid of stuff. So I can still work from home with just my laptop. Do I need to have this desk in the corner? Can I maybe do some rearranging in my apartment to just make it more of a different space now that I get home so much? And so that's been kind of fun to plan out this week. Yeah. Just to start to it the coolest thing is chat GT chat GPT and AI just giving me ideas. So I took a couple pictures of my living area here, and this is what it looks like now. I have visions of maybe making a little bit more cozier, just a little bit different with I when I take out the office part, and it essentially just like typed a bunch of ideas out, and then I said, Can you give me some visuals? And so it hammered out like a couple different ideas of in my space of just like putting in a bookshelf here or a different chair here or a plant here. But it's like got my stuff still in it, but like it's really it was really cool.
SPEAKER_00So that's I know crazy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so it was kind of fun just to start to get some ideas of like what this could look like with a transition because I don't have I am not uh artistic anyway. I don't, I'm not a you know, interior interior designer. I can't really like picture all this stuff until I just buy something. So having an idea of what this could possibly look like was I thought that was awesome just to have that ability.
SPEAKER_00And dude, that's that's so crazy that you can do that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Steve, what I will do is I will text you a picture uh of the before and after.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So yeah, that's oh my gosh. That I I guess I I I'm dumbfounded. Like I I don't know what else to say.
SPEAKER_02That's so well, it reminded me a little bit of I know Amazon had this feature for a while, and I still don't know. I haven't purchased anything where I'm like, I need to see if this fits in my apartment, but they used to have that like they still do.
SPEAKER_00I know what you're getting from.
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah, let's put the and so I when I first used that a couple years ago, I was like blown away like, oh my god, this this chair or couch is in my living room, but not really.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like uh augmented reality reality, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So it kind of reminded me of that in a way, other than that these and it the thing with the uh with the AI, it gave me a few different options. So, like, hey, this is what you could do here, and then I of course like like, well, actually, I'd like you to do this, and then it just it re- it reimagines your space with the pictures that you took.
SPEAKER_00That is so crazy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so it's kind of neat.
SPEAKER_00Holy smokes! God, I feel like I should take a picture of like my son's room and be like, help me organize this mess.
SPEAKER_02I honestly I thought you would it would be some suggestions.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you could keep going back and tailor it a little bit, but see, and it this isn't where I originally had our conversation going, but this is one of those things that I think of when when people get really nervous about AI and like, oh my gosh, it's taking over, and this and that. This is such a cool and fascinating tool. Like, could you imagine 10 years ago doing something similar?
unknownOh god.
SPEAKER_00No, like not even like I agree with you. I remember when uh Amazon did the augmented reality thing where it's like, oh, I'm looking at this cabinet or whatever, right? And I want to know if it'll fit in this specific space or what it'll kind of quote unquote look like. Sure. Um and yeah, like you get a general semblance, but the fact that you don't just get a written out prompt from Chat GPT or whatever, you're actually getting images, and it's that oh my gosh, and then the other cool part was it had like a few different because I wanted to get a new essentially I'm getting rid of the desk.
SPEAKER_02I unfortunately parted with my fish tank, uh my 29 gallon fish tank. Um I had that for a year and a half. It was fun, it just was like it wasn't gonna fit my decor now, right? And I just wanted to it was like it's it was fun, but it was something I didn't want to keep up with. So I but I everyone, if you are a uh fish fanatic, they were rehomed back to the store that I purchased them at.
SPEAKER_00So oh, uh is that what you're calling the bathroom now when you just dangle them over the toilet? Is that no? Oh no, I took them.
SPEAKER_02I did not. No, I took them back to the store that I purchased them in, so they are safe, they are going to another home.
SPEAKER_00Um at the farm up. So you're saying I don't have a chance of seeing these fish if I go to the store and buy a bag of like Gordon's fish sticks?
SPEAKER_02I don't have not have a chance of no, no, they are real.
SPEAKER_00Every animal lover that is listening to us is like, Patrick is so nice. I hate Steve. Like, could he just not be on?
SPEAKER_02Where was I going with that? Oh, so I had wanted a sorry, I wanted a uh a new coffee table too to replace the one I had. And so these images that ChatGPT had shared, I was like, oh, I really like the one that you put in the second example, second picture. Can you find some that are like this in like real life? And so it literally listed like four or five. Uh we're talking like on Wayfair or Amazon or uh West, what is that, West End, Creighton Barrel, one of those furniture stores. It gave me links to each of those depending on you know different price points to the reviews. So it's it'll be fun just to kind of trigger that.
SPEAKER_00God, that's a slippery slope. Like this is where my my pessimist like part of my brain kicks in. Um have you ever it's a young adult novel, so I know it's not a part of everybody's library, if you will, but there is a book called Feed. Are you familiar with it?
SPEAKER_02I am not.
SPEAKER_00Oh god. So trying to think of the the author, but I'm not going to bore our audience with that. Um the short version is that uh it's in the near future, and everybody has these little chips implanted into their brain, which basically makes the internet accessible with your mind. Oh and it's very interesting in that it's like what does society look like? And there's um all these little like nuanced hints at to what like the greater world looks like when things such as like the sun has like a trademark. It's like I was looking up at the moon copyright. Like it's really kind of it's like, oh geez, like uh so your thing of like, oh, thanks, chat GPT, for this information. Could you also tell me to get it? It's like you better believe I can tell you where you can get this. Yeah, but yeah, fascinating though. But regardless, uh that's such a cool and a really interesting way to utilize that system. Really neat. That's cool.
SPEAKER_02Enough about me. What's up with you, Steve?
SPEAKER_00Oh, wow, wow. We are, you know what? Can I just give you and I credit? We are really good with segues. Like, we are just like, ah man, they're gonna do studies on us, and by they I mean like maybe one person. Um we are just they're so seamless. All right, so you alluded to this earlier. And okay, okay, I'm I'm let's do this. So, Mr. Patrick alluded to Harry Potter, and I have officially, as of last night, finished watching the Harry Potter series for the very first time. Now you might be asking yourself, well, let me see here. What year is it? And you if you look and you see that it's 2026, you are correct. And you're also thinking, but didn't the last one get filmed like whatever, 12 years ago? And I'd be like, also, yeah. Also, yeah. I actually don't know when the last one was filmed. Like, legit, I don't know. Um I'd say, yeah, like yeah, a hot minute ago. Yeah. Um, and the reason why I didn't watch them when they first came out is it just didn't really strike me at the time as like, oh, I'm interested in this. Um, and then it got to a point that like once like the later movies came out, and I kept on hearing, like, oh, they get a bit more dark and more serious. And I was like, well, I can deal with dark and serious, like, mmm. But then I'm also like, you know what? Is this gonna sound weird to some of you out there, but my wife and I both had never watched them. And I had said, Well, how cool would it be if we watch these with our kids who didn't exist at the time, might add? Like, sure, what if we like watch these with our future kids for the first time? Like, we all get to watch them together for the first time, and she's like, Oh, this is why I love you. And I'm like, Oh, I know, because I'm like such a big deal. So we started that. Uh, my son was not having it. He's like, Voldemort's scary, no. My daughter was like, Yeah, these are fine. And anybody that's watched the films knows that yes, they do get more dark and serious as the time goes on. We did a nice cut at about number five, I think it was, because there's like a hundred of them. Um, we're like, okay, this is getting a bit serious, and she's seven. We're like, maybe we'll wait until you're a little older. And I'm glad we did that. Um, because these movies suck. They're not good.
SPEAKER_02Well, friends, I'm always hosting a podcast with Steve Console. We are grossly competent and see another show.
SPEAKER_00No, like I'm sorry. I know I'm not the Target demographic. I know I'm not. Like, I some of you may know this, maybe you don't. Burn. Um, I I am a huge nerd. Like, I love nerdy stuff. Love nerdy stuff. Like, I have shown my kids the never-ending story and labyrinth and like all the like I I love Lord of the Rings. Like, these are great films. No, no, Harry Potter, they're not, they're not good. Um, the only great like there's only one complex character in the whole thing, and that's Snape. Um the writing's lazy. It's like abundantly easy to see every twist because I I felt like I was a security guard in Austin Powers yelling for the steamroller to stop like an entire gymnasium away. Like that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_02Have you read had you read the books though?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_02Oh what no?
SPEAKER_00I'm basing this entirely off of the films. I'm just basing it off the films.
SPEAKER_02You need to have read the books, the series first, and then you Watch all the movies.
SPEAKER_00Nah. Nah.
SPEAKER_02Unreal.
SPEAKER_00Nah. So uh no. That's that's my opinion on the films. I'm not saying anything about the books. The books I understand are always like the books are always better. That's great. I'm basing this entirely off of the phenomenon that was the movies. They are poop. And um I know I will probably receive a special, like a lot of flax list, but um Dobby is trash. And um, yeah, I genuinely I think the only good thing that came out of the series is I love that Daniel Radcliffe has kind of hit the like the fuck it button, and he's like, I will appear in every obscure film that I want because like I'm financially set for life. And um, Emma Watson is just a delight.
SPEAKER_02You know, uh there's that movie Robin Hood Men and Tights, and which is phenomenal, might I add.
SPEAKER_00That's a Mel Brooks masterpiece.
SPEAKER_02Inconceivable! That's how I feel about your take on Harry Potter. I don't use that word very often, but I am here because it's ridiculous, and your take on Harry Potter is also ridiculous. One out uh what would you give it out of five stars?
SPEAKER_00Uh I would give it one because I'm assuming I can't go lower. Okay. Uh one out of five, the Lord of the Rings is a better film series in every single possible way.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'll I'll give you, okay. I'll give you that. I love the Lord of the Rings. There's so much watching that movie just puts me in the in the feels of just like what I mean, the the the filming locations, just the whole the writing, the character development. It's awesome. But I I like Harry Potter. Uh the books were fantastic. Sure. Uh I know JK Rowling's kind of gotten some flack over her opening her mouth and stuff she should be talking about. Um but the I thought they did a a good job with the movies. Now, yes, they're they're corny in a way. The first two, the kid, I mean, those kids were so young.
SPEAKER_00Oh, of course, man.
SPEAKER_02And so they're not the the first one, the first couple movies are like it's I don't know if it's like a nostalgia thing or just like okay, these are they're good, they're okay. But like I think that as the movies got on, they did get better. Uh yes, the some of the characters are not like you're gonna be totally extreme as far as their whether their development or their personalities, but I look at a lot at movies like did it entertain me? Did I want to sit down and continue watching this when it was on? The answer would be yes. So we might have a little bit different criteria. Um, but I one, I think a one out of five is harsh. I mean, you know, like I would even give in like your mask, I would have given like a two out of five. I know it's not a movie, but at least, you know, it's it's I'm not throwing up right now. I think that would be fun.
SPEAKER_00I'm I'm gagging a little bit as I think, but I I will admit this, and yes, I know I'm being overly harsh. I know I am. Um I will I will uh admit to this. I do feel like sometimes when things are overhyped, it ruins it, right? Like, oh, it's the best ever. And I felt like that's all I ever heard. So I'm expecting, like, my expectations are really high. I'm thinking, wow, this has to like it was and it I would actually admit that it still currently is like a large cultural phenomenon. So when I'm sitting there going like, wait, that was it? What? Oh, okay, okay, hmm, weird. So I don't know. It was one of those things, and it was funny. Last night before we started watching, um, my wife is like, Do you think you know it's gonna happen? And I was like, I am willing to bet money I know it's gonna happen. Without even starting the film, I I think I already know it's gonna happen. And she's like, Do you want to tell me? I'm like, No, because I don't want to spoil it for you. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I will admit it if I'm wrong. And I'm not gonna say anything on this because maybe there's somebody else out there that's like me that hadn't watched it. Uh, but when a pivotal moment happened, I just turned to her and went, yep. Uh, that was like something I figured out.
SPEAKER_02I'm not okay sharing that because I think this the statute of limitations or whatever you call it for movies, is it's it's far gone. Okay.
SPEAKER_00No, I don't want to do that to somebody else.
SPEAKER_02I I oh, see, that is where if we differ. If if someone is like, oh, I haven't seen the movie, don't tell me, dude, that movie came off 15 years ago. It's too freaking bad, okay? Um that is where we depend on like the movie or TV show thing, where it's like, dude, you know, it's not like a oh my god, last night's episode of House of Dragon. Holy crap, I can't believe this happened. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I it just was on last night. Hold on. But anyway, I won't I won't say anything, but I I think that the I think the Snape thing that happened, I love that part. Like, oh, like that was cool. He's the only complex character. Yeah, I know. But uh just I don't know. I liked I like the I like the whole premise of just the the bad versus the evil. And I don't know. It's kind of fun. It's just one of those movies, Steve. We talked about this off the air. Uh one of those movies, if you are, I know it's different now because everyone not everyone has just like basic cable, but like let's say you've got like YouTube TV, your Hulu, and let's say you say you're out of something to watch on Netflix, so you're just scrolling your TV and you just happen to find a movie. It's like for me, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Shawshank Redemption, The Matrix, those are gonna be like, I'll stop and just like sit and watch for a little bit. I don't need to sit there for two hours, but like I'm just gonna sit and do this and lose track of time for a half hour. So that's one of those I would I would I think that's totally fair.
SPEAKER_00It's just not my cup of tea. And that is completely fine.
SPEAKER_02Well, and before we before we segue into our topic, I will say that um I think that's kind of hogwash. Or should I say hogwarts?
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, how long have you been holding that?
SPEAKER_02About 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_00So dumb. So dumb. Be here all week. Oh my god. What do you got for us today, Steve?
SPEAKER_01What should we talk about?
SPEAKER_00All right, so since I'm apparently on a roll of salty, um, I thought this week, Mr. Patrick, that we could have a little chit-chat about professional pet peeves. Like the things that happen in our professional day-to-day that either just cause our skin to crawl or we have to close our eyes so people don't see our eyes roll. You know? Like, I mean, let's be honest, we all have them. So why don't we just air these grievances out? Like, what do you what do you say?
SPEAKER_02It's like a midsummer festivist. I like it.
SPEAKER_00Why not, right, man?
SPEAKER_02Do you think that would be bad if you brought a festivist pole to the workplace?
SPEAKER_00I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I got a lot of problems with you people.
SPEAKER_00And we're gonna we're gonna hash this out. We're gonna do that. I like that. Um this is fun. I like this idea. I I know we typically when we kind of have these uh conversations, we we kind of do like a tit for tat like back and forth kind of thing. Are you cool with that? Oh, and listeners, uh, something a little bit different that uh Patrick and I are doing. So I told Mr. Patrick that we were I was like, let's do pet peeves. And he's like, Yes. Um and I know we've talked about this in the past where we have like we call it a script. Dude, you should see this thing. It ain't no script. Um, where we'll at least have our ideas listed out. Well, Mr. Patrick and I have actually taken our pet peeve lists, and we don't have them on like the shared. So I'm gonna hear Mr. Patrick's for the first time, and he's gonna hear mine. So yeah, I'm kind of looking forward to that. Uh, do you want to start us off? Or would you like me to? I don't care.
SPEAKER_02Uh I can start. Yeah, I'll do that.
SPEAKER_00Okay, you you fired off, man.
SPEAKER_02I'll do one, you do one, we'll go back and forth that way.
SPEAKER_00Sounds awesome. And if we have a shared one, we'll just kind of like call that one a while.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yep.
SPEAKER_00Cool. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um well, I don't work with you, so I didn't put you on there. Um that was gonna be my first one. But uh Yeah, well, you could. My first one is gonna be. I know we've talked about this on here before, but uh reply all.
SPEAKER_00Oh when I miss that one! Yes, that's such a good one.
SPEAKER_02Uh and I avoid I try to avoid when I'm sending emails out to groups, I try to avoid this at all costs. So when I send something out, like I've talked about this before, I I host a coffee club or a book club, or I'm sending stuff out to like a uh some sort of network resource group, I will send it in the two box I put myself and then I do blind carbon copy. So it goes to all the email addresses. So when everyone gets it, it goes to like if I was sending it to Steve Council, it would say to Steve Council, but then it wouldn't show anyone else that it's going to. So I'm still able to hit the masses, but there's not an opportunity to reply all because my going back to my my pet peeve is that when people do get a mass email, and I understand that why people do it when they send these out to where they include everyone in the two box, because there's times where people need to know who else is on this email chain. I I get the under you don't uh uh listeners, you don't have to tell me why you do it, uh why you put people there. I understand the the the gist of it. However, my pet peeve is when people reply all when they don't need to, when it could be a reply just back to the the person. And yeah, I'm sure there's times where people do it by accident, boomers.
SPEAKER_00Um, but oh, oh, oh shots fired.
SPEAKER_02But if they don't know any better, that's where it's kind of annoying because it could be, hey, I'm sending an email out. Let's say I don't do BCC. I say, hey everyone, just a reminder, we're having our event Thursday afternoon at three o'clock. Please don't let me know if you can make it, just let me know if you can't make it. I already know, you know, and then it's just a quick reply. Hey, sorry, something came up, can't be there. But when you hit reply all, not everyone needs to know that.
SPEAKER_00Just a weak example, but yeah, but but valid. Um that well, okay. You know what I appreciate is that you explained your pet peeve, but then you explained a solution around it.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00I do, I appreciate that. Um, because I I have to admit, I I guess I never thought of doing it that way. Of having everybody BCC'd so they don't see oh. Now I was a smart idea.
SPEAKER_02Like when I'm sending calendar invites out through we use Outlook at work, yeah. Um, then those have to be like in the two, which is fine because people aren't gonna you can't reply all to those. Like count but people know who's gonna be in this meeting or who's gonna be on this training if it's virtual.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But the what but the first message I send out that goes to everybody to explain something, it's nope, I'm just sending it to myself, and it just makes it a whole lot easier.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's seriously, that's a really awesome idea. Like I am gonna start using it. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02You're welcome. What do you got for us?
SPEAKER_00See, we learn things. That's why we're a learning and development podcast, and we're also a Harry Potter trash talking podcast. That is true. Uh at least half of it. No, thanks for having me. Half of it is so my first pet peeve is being late to meetings with a fresh Starbucks in hand. So and and take whatever you want. It doesn't have to be a Starbucks, it could be whatever it is, but it is a full beverage that you know you only got because you're late for the meeting you were supposed to be at.
SPEAKER_02You're talking in-person meetings normally, right?
SPEAKER_00Uh honestly, any like I don't care if it's virtual too, just because what to me, what that says is that um it's a it's a discount of your time. Like, your time is not as valuable as my time, and you can wait for me to do these mundane tasks that I could have been better managing my own time for, but I chose not to. Like, and there's nothing against being late to things if whatever, let's say you have back-to-back meetings, right? And and that happens. Like, you have a 10 to 10:30, and then a 10:30 to 11, and you're like, I'm sorry, I got off of that one late, or um, I just need to use the bathroom or something like that. That is completely acceptable. And I will never, I will never sneer at that. It is the saunter in at like 10 minutes after with the fresh brand new cup of Starbucks, and I'm like, every fiber of my being hates you.
SPEAKER_02Can I play a devil advocate real quick? Heck yeah, you can. I I I want to preface that I'm completely joking with this because I I think your point exactly it I'm on the same page with you. But if you had to, just let's say life in general, if you're ranking something, okay, in of order importance, would you rank caffeine ahead of work? What's more enjoyable in your life, caffeine or going to work? I would say caffeine is more important. I mean, hey, yeah, you gotta work to live, provide, but like, no, order of opportunity of rankings here, caffeine sits ahead. So I would say those people that walk in, I get you.
SPEAKER_00No, but it's just I love your your logic statements here. You're like, this is that's where my head goes. Well played.
SPEAKER_02But no, to your to your point, I I am on board with that. I think it's you hit the nail on the head there of like prioritizing, like you're showing you're kind of showing me backhandedly that I'm not as my time is not as important as yours. And yet we all, as you said, we all there's all things that people can be late for, but as far as like it's the thing I struggle with sometimes where I'm like, oh, this is a 15-minute drive away, says according to my sure but that's actually what I I sometimes have in trouble with is that's actually when I'm in my car, when I already turn my car on and I start driving. I'm up in my apartment. I haven't factored in the fact that I have to leave my apartment, wait for the elevator, go down the elevator, walk to my car, get so it's just kind of it's kind of funny where people don't always plan that. They didn't, they're not as organized, maybe in their thoughts.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and and do not take it for a single second. I am not the uh like if you're 10 minutes earlier on time. I'm not that guy. Like, I am absolutely not that guy. What is it?
SPEAKER_02The uh if you're if you're on time, you're late.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. If you're 10 minutes earlier, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late, and if you're late, don't bother. Something weird like that. I can't remember how it goes, but I'm just like, no, because life happens. And like in your case, right? The I'm 15 minutes away driving, uh, takes me 10 minutes to get from your apartment. I don't know, Jenny. I'm just throwing out there. 10 minutes to get to the car. Fine. So you're looking at what a half an hour, but what if something happens on the road? Okay, like, dude, life happens. But when somebody walks in with the conscious decision the decision to be like, I didn't want to be here on time because I found this was more valuable than everybody else in this room. That's where I'm like, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, and that's why with facilitators, Steve, I know it's just part of our nature of being a facilitator. Let's say we have a training from 9 to 11.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We don't get there at 8.45 or 8.50. No, we get there. We have to give ourselves because it's not only the prep time, but we want to make sure the technology works. We want to make sure that the traffic is okay. So we get there a reasonable time. Yeah. And we allow ourselves, one, I think it's it's just a good practice, but two, it removes the stress of like, oh my gosh, why did I leave so late? I have this this training starts in 20 minutes, I'm sure. And you're right. Participants, you do understand where I say, okay, I know the traffic's really bad on the freeway today because there was an accident. So there's gonna be some people that come in a little bit late and you excuse them that way. But yeah, I I I I completely get your first uh your first point there. That was that was good.
SPEAKER_00I I totally agree. All right, man. Your turn. What do you got?
SPEAKER_02All right. So my second one is might hit home a little bit here, but uh boy. This this could have been an email meetings.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you yours are so good. Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_02I will say this was actually kind of this activity. I thought it was gonna be a little easier, but when I was thinking about these over um the weekend, I was like, I don't like I don't I think maybe we're similar, but like I I I know I I work, I like my job, I like what I do as a profession. I also know that it puts food on the table, and so that's why I do work. Um I am not a, you know, it's um I you know work to live, I don't live to work. And but again, having enjoyment in your job is is very important as well.
SPEAKER_00Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I my philosophy at work typically is like I just don't let things bother me too much. I just kind of like, but as you said though, right away, like we yes, everyone's got these little pet peeves. So I was trying to figure out like what's gonna be a good one. So to my second point, um yeah, we've all been on them, those emails or those meetings that are like why didn't we just get an email about this? And I know, oh, people don't need their emails. Well, guess what? People also don't pay attention in meetings when they're unnecessary random just bantering of stuff that really could have been spelled out in an email. I mean, if you really want people to read it, you think it's important, put an exclamation point, the urgency on the email that you can do, and just to say, hey, this is actually very, very important. Yes. And then that if that employee doesn't read it, then that's on them that the fact that they're not. Throw it in the subject line. The social cues. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like, throw it in the subject line, like important, please like poker. Yeah, yeah. So um, I there's a couple things that you said, and I was like, ooh, I I I love the way you put that, and I totally agree. Um, one of the things that you mentioned was um I'm gonna paraphrase it, I can't remember exactly how you you said it, but uh something along the lines of like, yes, this should have just been an email, and if some people don't read that, like it kind of reminds me of the whole like boy cries wolf, right? Like if you are constantly bombarding somebody with oh, right. Oh, but like if you're constantly bombarding somebody with meaningless meetings, um over time, like so let's just do this as an example, right? Maybe this will make it a bit more clear from what I'm trying to get at. Patrick, you and I work together, and if every single time I send a meeting invite out and you get it, and you know the last say handful of times that I've hosted a meeting, you're like, that should have just been an email. The likelihood of you responding to my meetings is going to diminish every single time.
SPEAKER_01Correct.
SPEAKER_00Like, and that's why I say the boy cries wolf, right? Like the the whole parable of the boy crying wolf, he does it as a joke twice, the third time the villagers don't come because they think he's full of it, and yet he was actually telling the truth. Like, so when the time comes that I actually want to have a very meaningful conversation with everybody, I've exhausted that. Everybody now has taken my meetings as being garbage, and yeah, like they're a as I say about sarcasm, it's a um a weapon you need the wisdom to wield, right?
SPEAKER_01Like, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So there was that, and shoot, I'm now well that must have hurt. Oh, I know. I know he's gotten so much better about it. So much better. I love that story. I know. Uh um, there was something else that you mentioned. Shoot, and I lost it. No, that's all good, but uh I oh, this is what I was gonna say is uh I really appreciate your sentiment. Like when when I originally brought the idea of pet peeves, and you were kind of thinking, like, you know what, I really try to um work to live now. Live to work. Um, I genuinely attribute that, and listeners, for those of you that have been listening for a while, know this about Mr. Patrick, that you've been kind of following more of like the stoicism and trying to get into that more. I would attribute that thinking towards that that kind of specific personal journey you've been on. So clearly it's working, you know, like that it's allowed you to kind of slough off the lesser details, like yeah, whatever. This was one of those things that the reason why pet peeves came up to me, like came into my mind was somebody did one at work, and I was like, and I I happened to be with my manager when it happened, and I just did like one of those where I just like pushed my fingers in my eyes, like, oh my god. And she's like, That's that's a pet peeve of yours. I'm like, Yes, yes, yes, it is. Um because I yeah, I I don't need to get further into it, but that's where it all started. But good on you, man. Like, that's I think we could all use some of that um slough off the finer details kind of thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, just you know, take a deep breath and yeah, man. Let it let it roll.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and these are I mean, I don't know, between what you've said and what I've said so far, I mean, I wouldn't exactly think of these as like life-altering, like if it happens, ruin my day. No, it's just like a oh, come on, man.
SPEAKER_02You're better than your personal pet phoes can be something that's kind of like you roll your eyes, you're like, oh my god. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, yes, yes. Uh, no, well, well put. Is it shoot? Is it me?
SPEAKER_02You're up, yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I am. Um, actually, mine has uh email too. Okay, um, but mine's a bit different, and that is uh claiming I didn't get that email when you've already responded to it. Oh, but that's not it. Oh, but then you double down on claiming you didn't get it. Have you ever had that?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, that's a treat. So it's the I sent this, I uh I sent a mass email out. Then somebody says, I didn't get that email, and then I pull up and say, Well, you you responded right here. No, no, I didn't.
SPEAKER_01Oh what?
SPEAKER_00That's your that's you called it. That's you right there. Yeah, that's you. What? No, huh? Like, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02Are you are you in the camp of I save basically 98% of my emails at work?
SPEAKER_00Um, I I I am a bit of a pack rat, but uh 98 is a lot.
SPEAKER_02I save because uh let me rephrase 98%. No, you're just gonna. Okay. I do save a lot because I have I have folders. I'm my my inbox, my my team usually can't believe it because my inbox is like sparkling clean. I make a note I have on my calendar every Friday uh or last day of the week is to organize organize the inbox. So I don't want I keep stuff in there like oh I need to like remind myself. So sometimes if I'm not writing it down, I'll put like the little flag, like the follow-up.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02And I just leave that I leave those on if it's something like okay, I have to address this next week. Um, or I'll put a note in my calendar for the following, like check this. But I don't I don't need all the I don't need 20, 30 emails in my inbox because it gives me uh minor anxiety. I want those stuff in the folder. So whatever department or team or person that I usually work with quite often, I I move those to those subfolders. But I a lot of times I don't delete it unless it's uh an email comes through that okay, that problem solved, don't need any more. It's not not something I need to maybe think about, like, oh, did someone get that email? If it's something just like totally not important, I'll just hit delete.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I do keep a lot of them just for this fact of like, hey, I never got that, I never said that.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, yeah, you hate to have to do it, right? Like, man, you it shouldn't always be a CYA sort of thing. Um but I and not to say that any other line of profession or something doesn't have to, but I feel like uh for you and I, because we don't just deal with like one specific department, we're dealing with everybody collectively. It is wildly important for us to be like, no, but you did, which is why when somebody doubles down on the I didn't get that, it's like the equivalent of my dog ate my homework, and it's like, no, they you don't have a dog. No, well, I bet you can imagine if I did, yeah. Like, no uh, my cat did. You don't have a cat either. God, uh, my fish. No, like I don't know that clearly you can tell that it's an annoying thing, and it's happened more than once in my life.
SPEAKER_02I'm also not a people manager, so maybe I haven't just experienced that because I haven't had to like go out or like check in with that. Um times where I eat with my coworkers I say, hey, like I know we emailed about this months ago. Like, I can't find that flipping email, and I say everything, like, can you help me out? And then they they reforward it. Oh, perfect, thank you.
SPEAKER_00Oh, and then stuff like that, Matt, like, yes, that that kind of stuff happens. Um, I am of the mind that, and I'm I'm also very guilty too, of I get an email, and it's like, oh, I gotta respond. And you know what? Things do come up, and shocking, I forget. Like, okay, that happens. Just own it. Like, and we've talked about this a hundred times in this podcast. Like, just own it. Just be like, oh shoot, I forgot to. I'm sorry. And I've even made it a point to like when I make those mistakes that I like it's the first line in the email back. Like, I am so sorry I didn't get back to you. I have no excuses, it's completely uh my fault. Uh, how can I make this right?
unknownSure.
SPEAKER_00And I've really found that 99% of people that I send stuff like that to usually respond with, oh, it's okay. Like, I totally get it. Things happen, all good. Now we can have this conversation. Um, because it's nice to give that grace. But don't if there is, as you said, a paper trail that shows you have received it, don't please don't double down on it and go like, no, I didn't. Unless you were hacked. Which you weren't. So it's one of those that yes, it's a pet peeve, but I find myself more laughing about it. Like, who are you trying to kid? Yeah. Like, just own the mistake. It's okay. Oh, all right. All right, man. Your turn. Fire away. What do you got?
SPEAKER_02All right. My last one is meetings before nine and after four. My workday is let's say we'll just call it uh eight to five. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02There is no need for a morning, a meeting before nine. There is absolutely no need for a meeting after four. There's you have those bookends, right? Okay. Eight o'clock is for logging in, whether you're getting your coffee, you're checking your emails, you're kind of planning out your day.
SPEAKER_00I love this.
SPEAKER_02And after four o'clock, no. Okay, it's wrapping up your day, it's checking up, put checking your calendar, yada yada. It's kind of yeah, I want to say coasting, but it the end the day, the workday is over. You had seven hours to schedule meetings up on the opposite side of these.
SPEAKER_00And so I think they don't, fortunately, in my current job, they don't happen very often, but when they do, I have to ask why I love this so much. Um, mainly because it was a lesson I learned very early on in my my career. You were working on it. And yeah, well, I didn't know any better. I mean, legit, I just didn't. I guess I looked at it as like, well, that's part of the work day. And I had a manager sit me down. It's like, just like what you said, like, buddy, I understand where you're going with this. However, you are setting yourself up for failure. Don't. And I've always remembered that. Like, oh, okay. Um, so I it was one of those things, it was a learning curve for me, but you're absolutely right. And I would actually even take one step further if you don't mind. Sure. And that is your um the early morning, like say you say like sub nine o'clock, eight o'clock, whatever it is, right? Like that is your brain is still kind of acclimating to the day. Like you're just you're you're getting yourself settled, you're checking on a couple of things, like nobody is ready to rock and roll at 7 30 in the morning. Like, that's just not the deal. You're just kind of acclimating yet. Um, and then at the end of the day, you're spent. Like your bandwidth is really not there. And I would argue that a meeting after four or five o'clock, something like that, is for nothing. Like that is that right there is a this should have been an email.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's probably worse than the eight o'clock meeting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I think I would agree with you because you're now at the like checkout stage in your mind of like, yeah, I have had an entire day of dealing with whatever, and now you want to add more? Like, no, I'm good. I'm thinking about what I'm gonna make for dinner and what we actually have in our house to make for dinner. Right. And um, if you have kids helping them out with homework, like you have all these things in your mind, or like, I hope traffic doesn't suck on the way home, like all this stuff that's kicking through your skull. Not boy, I'm really glad we had this meeting. Like, no, please. Um, well, ooh, that actually might be ooh, I was gonna say that might be my favorite one. But that's a really good one. Oh, I feel like mine pales in comparison. Oh, no, weak, weak. Yeah, my this last one doesn't feel embarrassed now at this point.
SPEAKER_02Um is it when you forget your mask?
SPEAKER_00No, that I don't care if I forget my mask. The world, the world cares, yeah. Um, I think this one's pertinent specifically to you and I and all of our LD brethren out there. Okay, and that is um when people don't complete training on time. Especially if you give a broad like due date range. You're like, hey, you have a month to do this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Get it done. And then it's like the last minute of the last hour, and they're like, uh, can I get an extension?
SPEAKER_02Or the week after. I tried to do the training, but it's locked.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that too. That too is my favorite.
SPEAKER_02Or the it locked because it was closed last week.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Or the infamous, um, I can't get in. You're like, well, you're the only person out of 400 that's having this problem. Hmm. I tried. Did you? Did you? Okay, why don't you come to my office and I'll show you how to do it exactly? And it's like, first try. Oh.
SPEAKER_02It worked. Don't worry. It was just mandatory training.
SPEAKER_00Don't worry. This is just what keeps us compliant with regulations of federal and state law. But beyond that, it's fine. It's fine. Yes. That is a good one. So that's that's what I was like. I feel like it's petty, but it's also like, oh, come on, really.
SPEAKER_02No, that's killing me. That's uh that's a frustration I know my co-worker deals with. She is the one that kind of runs the uh our LMS. Oh, okay. Everything goes through her. And so she has to deal with those emails um quite often. I mean, especially at the beginning of the year when we give our employees like literally like 90 days time to do this. And day 91, day 95, oh my it's either I can't get in or my employee tried to get in and they can't get in. What's wrong?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's closed.
SPEAKER_00What is the name of your coworker that deals with that?
SPEAKER_02Her name is Jill.
SPEAKER_00Jill, uh, you and I are spirit animals. Uh, we are we are bonded by the LMS, and uh I appreciate you, and I just want you to know that. So um I will always get your training done on time. Always.
unknownThat's awesome.
SPEAKER_02Good call. I like it.
SPEAKER_00Uh well, you know what? We need to do that every now and then, right? Yes. Um, this was fun. I, you know, not that it's a a contest, but I really think your top three were the best. Those were so good. Oh my god, yes, I love it. Um this was good. This was good fun. Yeah, every now and then you just have to air out those grievances. And um, I would be very curious for all of you listeners out there, if you agree. Um, do any of those strike your fancy? Um, do you just love the meetings that should have been an email? Um, how do you feel about uh I love your pre was it nine? Yeah, nine afore nine. Yep, pre-nine post-four meetings. Like let us know. Uh shoot us a message on Instagram or or shoot us an email. You can fan mail us now, even I turn that stuff back on. So uh yeah, I'd be really curious. Or um feel free to berate me on my opinion of Harry Potter. So there's that. But uh, Mr. Patrick, do you know who never pets our peeves?
SPEAKER_02That was funny. I like how you worded that. Uh, I was not expecting that.
SPEAKER_01Uh binaruski.
SPEAKER_00Segwayaruski. Yes. Segwayaruski. No. Uh, folks, it is indeed the spinaroski. Uh while Mr. Patrick fires up the wheel, a reminder for our listeners. Each episode we spin the spinarouski. It's a wheel of names that might belong to the woman who so generously shoved Mr. Patrick and I into the ugly club many, many moons ago. And the goal of this is that eventually we will land on her name so we can thank her properly. With that being said, Mr. Patrick, are you ready to spin that rooski?
SPEAKER_01Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00Spin that Rooski.
SPEAKER_02Marissa.
SPEAKER_00I love that. Marissa.
SPEAKER_02It's a great name. Marissa.
SPEAKER_00It really is. I don't know any, I don't know any Marissa's, but um, I've worked with a couple of Marissa's. Uh Marissa Lieberman being one. Uh, I know long time listener of the show. Um, she was absolutely wonderful and a delight. Uh, so Marissa, it Marissa's not the one that pushed us, though. The one I'm talking about is might be a different one. Um overall, Marissa, yeah, Marissa's a good one. And I think that uh I think it could have been. Uh Marissa, thank you so much for everything you've given us. Thank you for living rent-free in our heads. Thank you for bestowing the ugly club upon us. You are a delight, and uh, we appreciate you immensely.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, Marissa. That was a memorable night.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, sure was. Oh, what a night!
SPEAKER_02Love it. It's so dumb. Well, Steve, should we do some shout-outs?
SPEAKER_00Hell yeah, we should do some shout-outs. Do you want to fire it off first?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm gonna give a shout-out to uh, let's see here. I think taking a beat is my shout-out. So shouting out when you just take a beat and take a moment to uh just in general people's thoughts of, you know what, there's something I was going to do, but maybe I don't have the the bandwidth or the the energy to go and do that, and I think it's okay. So for example, I was I had plans to go out of town this weekend, but I've been I've had a fairly busy summer with uh personal trips, family, my business, and I was thinking, you know what, I'm uh the weather wasn't great, so that that was a driving factor as well. Uh so it was kind of a long day in the car. But I also was like, you know what, I could use a weekend just to hang out. And so my shout out is to anyone who is has the wherewithal to say, you know what, it's just not in the cards.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I like that. I just saw something um my wife showed me, I don't know if it was like a TikTok or something like that, where it was something about um if introverts told the truth. And it's this guy that like obviously he's playing a character, and somebody's like, Oh, uh, I'm sorry, I can't the person behind the camera saying this to the subject, excuse me, of uh something like, Oh, I'm sorry, I really can't do our plans this weekend. Something came up, and he's like, Oh, thank God, I didn't want to anyway. Like, oh, thank goodness. And the the person behind the camera is like, Don't you experience FOMO? And the response of the quote unquote introvert was, no, I experience JOMO, like J-O-M-O, which is joy of missing out.
SPEAKER_02Yes. I thought that was awesome. Or it's like either like the FOGO fear of going out, or but I like yours better than JOMO. Joy of missing out is even better.
SPEAKER_00I know you and I have talked about the uh the joy of not going out or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's just it's for me, it's a social battery now. And yeah, you know, I can use that phrase like, oh, I'm just a little all right, I've had my fun and fix of conversations and human interaction. I'm now ready to uh go sit on the couch and hang out with my dog.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's a it's a thing, and it's it's part of what I've learned um really since like post-COVID, uh, of where I used to think I was more extroverted. I now I'm not introverted, but I like to use the word ambivert, which is a mix of the two. Oh I've never heard that. Ambivert, yes, that is a that is a term, so it's kind of a mix of mix of both.
SPEAKER_00So I feel like I've learned so much in this hour of like sincerely, like, oh, I didn't know you could do that, or oh, that's fascinating. So it was chat GPT for interior design, um using the BCC when you're sending an email to a mass group so they don't reply all, and now ambivert.
SPEAKER_02Interesting. Okay, how is this not a subscription-based podcast? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I know. I mean, we are just doling out content, just pop pop. Speaking of content, so my shout out goes out to this very, very uh little known platform that some of you might be aware of. Uh it's called YouTube. Um yeah. So AI thing or well, just do yourself a favor sometime, just look it up. Uh it's like Y O U, not just the way I'm being a smart ass. Um, folks, I am excited to let you all know that Grossly Competent is officially live on YouTube. So snap. Yep. So um if that is the way you like to take your podcast now, um, it is still audio only. So you're just gonna be staring at the image of Patrick and I with Paper bags in our heads, and that's acceptable. But you get to hear our smooth, sultry, nasally Wisconsin accents now on YouTube.
SPEAKER_02Uh years ago, before we wrap up, I used to uh babysit for uh some kids that I knew from the one of my YMCA days.
SPEAKER_00Oh, wow, okay.
SPEAKER_02When I worked in the while before I graduated college, I worked at the YMCA for like before and after school childcare. Um and some of the families I became close with, they lived in the area. So, hey, do you mind watching the kids for the night or the weekend or whatever? Oh sure. And the two kids, this was like in YouTube's very early days. And these two kids at the time were like eight and ten. They're like, Mr. Patrick, you should come over here and watch this. I'm like, oh, what are you guys looking at? We're watching this video on YouTube.
SPEAKER_01Oh I was like, oh, I'm like, I think it's tube, like television. They're like, I think it's YouTubey. We'll go with that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, why not? Now they're now they're in their 20s and they're going, Mr. Patrick was. I remember, uh, God, this would have been like mid-2000s. Um, I was sitting in a uh like a like a dentist's office or something like that, waiting to get in, and I was reading this magazine, and I I still remember there was an article that was like, why you should um I'm I'm drawing a blank. It was like YouTube's the next big thing and why you should pay attention to it. And this was like when YouTube was like nothing, like it had no affiliation, like Google hadn't bought it or anything. It was just like this weird little thing. And they were talking about how it's like this conglomeration of just people's ideas, and you need to take note of it. And I remember reading that being like, there might be something to this YouTube thing, and boy were they right. So, folks, get out there and check us out on YouTube.
SPEAKER_02Well man, call it quits.
SPEAKER_00Let's let's shut this puppy down. Uh, or or as uh some folks would say, let's flush these fish. Right? Isn't that you are? No, isn't that what no? Let's take the fish to the farm upstate. Kidding folks, this I'm just joking. But folks out there, thank you so much for swinging by and hanging out with us. Um, that's it for this episode, and we will see you next time. Harry Potter Harry Potter sucks out.
SPEAKER_03Ugly out Ug Out of the I'm gonna be a little bit more than a little bit.
SPEAKER_00Five four. It did it really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you just missed it because you're an idiot. But it's okay.
SPEAKER_00Well, uh I would have taken ugly, but uh idiot works. Yeah, that's true. That's funny. You're ugly. No, no, no, the only thing that's harsh is my face.
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