The Story of Us

In this inaugural episode of Grossly Competent, your faithful hosts - Steve Counsell and Patrick Aleshire - decide to spend time introducing the podcast and their love of learning, development, training, and all things adulting. They also cut to the core about a longstanding joke and the inspiration behind the name, Grossly Competent, all while gambling on a chance to dedicate this episode to that special someone out there!

And of course, they 'would' really like to thank their sponsor for this week's episode, too! (insert groan here)

Transcript

Uggo (00:01.272)
Hello and welcome to Grossly Competent, the learning, development, and adulting podcast that doesn't claim to be pretty. I will never claim to be pretty, but we will happily pretend we're slightly competent at least. So I'm your host, Steve Konsel, and I'm joined by the man, the myth, and the legend, a Mr. Patrick Aleshire.

Patrick Aleshire (00:24.118)
Well, Steve, you are a true gentleman and a scholar. I appreciate that introduction.

Uggo (00:28.352)
You are the first to call me that. Both things, as a matter of

Patrick Aleshire (00:33.686)
probably gonna be my last. So you might be saying to yourself, wow, another podcast, how original.

Uggo (00:35.054)
So what do we got going on, man?

Uggo (00:44.266)
exactly what I was thinking.

Patrick Aleshire (00:46.74)
And well, yeah, you'd be right.

Uggo (00:49.262)
Yeah

Patrick Aleshire (00:50.75)
Steve and I want to share our love of all things learning, development, training, and adulting with anyone willing to listen. And we hope you do enjoy it. Both Steve and I have pretty solid backgrounds in the educational sectors of the world, complete with stories, anecdotes, and some fun sprinkled in.

Uggo (01:14.888)
my goodness, that just sounds like a breath of fresh air. I honestly bet nobody and I mean, nobody has even touched this kind of market. And if somebody has do me a favor, don't email us and tell us all about those individuals because they're probably handsome or very good looking. And we on the opposite side of that are not we are mutants. And we'll tell you all about that in a little bit. But Patrick, yeah, you're right. I

The intent behind this was we both just love learning and development. We love training and it just so happens to be that we've lived long enough that we're actually full grown adults. And we just want to chat about all that kind of stuff. So with that.

We just kind of thought it would be great for this specific episode. It's the intro, right? It's the very first one. So why don't you get to know us a little bit? We'll kind of talk a little bit about who we are, what we do, why we're even here. And I promise you all of the jokes about us being so godawful hideous will make sense by the end of this episode because we will enlighten you about the tale of Boomers and the Ugly Club.

But yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (02:34.513)
Everyone needs to just relax because it is coming. It's a solid story. It's actually all true. But, and I'm thinking though, Steve, you know, if for whatever reason the podcast falls flat, if for some reason people have already spoken so much on learning development, I'm thinking that

Uggo (02:39.809)
You

Uggo (02:43.787)
It is.

Yeah, with 100%.

Uggo (03:02.443)
and

Patrick Aleshire (03:03.951)
next session, next episode, we do a podcast on podcasts.

Uggo (03:09.326)
Oh, could we actually start a podcast about podcasting and how podcasting has helped other podcasters? Oh my God, no, no, no, no, no. All right, so without further ado, I'm gonna kind of take the center stage here if you're okay with that. I feel it's probably acceptable for you to understand and know who I am.

Patrick Aleshire (03:18.563)
Yeah, I think.

Patrick Aleshire (03:30.453)
Perfect.

Uggo (03:35.67)
So as I mentioned, my name is Steve Council. I've been in education for just about my entire adult life. I always knew I wanted to go into teaching. I had phenomenal teachers that really helped me kind of steer into that pathway. And with every job I've had, I just have always kind of tended to gravitate towards that educational part, sometimes without even realizing it.

Legitimately, this is a full-blown true story. The first time I can remember actually training somebody to like in a professional setting. I was all of about, I think, 17 and I was training my sister, my oldest sister, while we were working at this gas station that my aunt and uncle owned and

I'd been there for like three years. I was not a rookie there. Like I legit knew this place inside and out. I knew the the shortcuts on the registers. Like I like yeah, I was all about it. And my sister was just starting. So she's like, you can show me this, this, this. And my brain fails me right now. But I was showing her something very specific. Like, well, if this happens,

This is what you need to do. And I remember her just looking me just dead ass in the eyes and it was like, yeah, for eight dollars an hour. I'm I'm just really not going to worry about that. And what she was saying was totally valid. If you've ever worked service, gas stations, whatever like I get it. But the kicker is I was making seven dollars an hour.

Patrick Aleshire (05:14.503)
You

Uggo (05:30.072)
So that's when I discovered, well, I guess my overall family loves her more, which that's fine. She's a wonderful person. Obviously she's wonderful. But they clearly also felt that she was worth more too. So there's that. That's what I discovered that just because you're good at something doesn't mean you're going to make a lot of money, which is why I'm like, why wouldn't I get into training? Like this is my niche. Like this is great.

Patrick Aleshire (05:38.217)
That seems fair.

Uggo (06:00.334)
Yeah, believe it or not, shortly after that I went into my first big boy job and I was trained in a literal closet with VHS tapes. Yeah, so that was really cool.

Patrick Aleshire (06:12.117)
Storage room B, Milton.

Uggo (06:15.626)
yes. Have you ever seen the film waiting with Ryan Reynolds? you, you owe it to yourself. Anybody out there listening that has watched that number one, you are amazing. And number two, you have clearly worked in service at some point in your life. this movie follows a, an onboarding gentleman at a restaurant and he is trained, kind of dual trained. He

Patrick Aleshire (06:21.439)
I have not.

Uggo (06:42.816)
watches these outdated VHS tapes and then he's given on the job training by what can only be described as just complete psychopaths. But it's, it's fun. It's, it's Ryan Reynolds at his most Ryan Reynolds-y assist. Yeah. So yeah, that was kind of my, first professional foray into training and development and learning and that kind of cool stuff. I've also just really kind of

Patrick Aleshire (06:52.223)
Okay.

Uggo (07:12.2)
loved being a part of that corporate culture too, just really getting my hands dirty with that and seeing specific problems that education can fix or just emboldening people to be better or transpire to new and different things. So with that, I've seen tons of learning styles. I've met tons of people, some of which I hope would be happy to come onto the podcast here.

onboarding education, it's amazing how varied onboarding education is. And I have sat through more PowerPoint death mobiles than I can, I even want to think about. But I think that's a pretty fair understanding of just who I am, my background. Patrick, why don't you tell us a bit about you.

Patrick Aleshire (07:46.581)
You

Patrick Aleshire (07:59.594)
Well, Steve, before I do that, I will say from the 20 some years that I know you, your personality is perfect for learning development. I mean, just the way you are able to get up in front of people and just tell a story, whether it's at a party or in the classroom or you're at a train the trainer, getting a certification there.

Uggo (08:19.214)
at least I wasn't cool enough to get my picture taken and put on the marketing materials, which makes sense because they, I assumed the cameras were expensive and they didn't want to ruin the film nor the actual camera itself by trying to take a picture.

Patrick Aleshire (08:34.371)
Hehehehe

I don't know how I made it on to be honest, if anyone is listening, if anyone is holding on to the 2019 marketing material for University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Extensions Program, you will find this guy's mug on some of the flyers.

Uggo (08:41.908)
hahahaha

Uggo (09:00.972)
It's pretty incredible. Next to Mr. Buck. I can't remember his last name to save my soul. But what an absolute gentleman. That is, that's too funny. All right. good, good way to pull that one out. All right. Okay. It's not Buck.

Patrick Aleshire (09:13.055)
Buck Hillstead, Buck Hillstead. Yeah. Here's a trivia question. What's his first name?

Rodney.

Uggo (09:26.402)
Wow. Are we keeping that in?

Patrick Aleshire (09:27.893)
Boom, No, bring me to bring me to bar trivia.

Uggo (09:34.946)
Wow, it's that I would never have guessed. He's an absolute stallion.

Patrick Aleshire (09:39.552)
Well, Steve, thank you again for sharing all about your life in the world, coming up as a young lad in the gas station business, leading us to your now career. About me, mine, my journey's been a little bit different.

Uggo (09:53.097)
Mm. Mm.

Patrick Aleshire (10:04.821)
I knew pretty much nothing about learning development pre 2017. I was a classroom educator for a little over six years.

Uggo (10:11.15)
you

Uggo (10:16.289)
The Lord's work.

Patrick Aleshire (10:18.407)
I was in my own little world, mostly unhappy with what I considered a crappy paycheck and lots of stress and anxiety. Now, I knew something else was out there. I just didn't know what. And honest to goodness, truth, I remember at one point, probably summertime of, we'll say 2015, 16, as I started kind of thinking about other careers, I did Google,

Uggo (10:27.981)
Yeah.

Uggo (10:44.759)
Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (10:48.157)
What can teachers do? Like what are my skills? What skills do I have? What else can I do? What are these transferable skills? There's gotta be something else out there. And sure enough, in my search, know, searches, the training development came up, learning and development. And I started kind of looking like.

Uggo (10:54.179)
Yeah!

Uggo (10:58.816)
Yeah, absolutely. I won't make fun of that. Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (11:12.029)
Can I do that? I don't have a degree in training. Is that a degree? learning a development a degree? And before I knew it, I'm in a new career and was thoroughly enjoying it. From developing a training program from the ground up, which I did at a manufacturing plant, to leading multi-day new employee orientations, which I did in the entertainment industry, which was so fun.

Uggo (11:13.518)
Mm.

Uggo (11:37.198)
ooo

Patrick Aleshire (11:38.856)
to designing and facilitating leadership training. It's all been really unique and wonderful, but challenging and also rewarding. Now I too, as yourself, I'm a bit of a talker and I have learned the power of effective communication, which it turns out is mostly about listening.

Uggo (11:49.923)
Mm-hmm.

Uggo (12:01.612)
What? I'm just kidding.

Patrick Aleshire (12:05.329)
Something I've gotten quite good at. Except for all the times I'm gonna be interrupting Steve.

Uggo (12:12.898)
Well, so far I think I have about three or four on my side of interrupts. So anytime you interrupt me is all good. Yeah, we're both chatters. So that's that is okay with me. All right. So now that you know a little bit about us just on the surface, I assume over time you'll get to know us a little bit more and you understand our background with

Learning and development and training and all sorts of stuff like that. I think we need to talk about the Elephant in the room and that is like the elephant that once sat on our faces and that is why they look the way they do So I'm gonna leave that one up to you. You do a far better job of telling the story than I do I'll just interject here and there whenever I feel like my opinion is valid

Patrick Aleshire (12:52.787)
Yes.

Patrick Aleshire (13:08.319)
Great, great. Happy to do so. I relived this story as I'm sure you have a couple hundred times in the last 20 years. But if I remember correctly, it was a clear black night, a clear white moon. Steve and I were on the streets trying to consume some skirts for the eve so we could get some phones rolling in our rides, chilling all alone.

Uggo (13:11.544)
Thank you.

Uggo (13:18.958)
every day. Every day.

Uggo (13:30.542)
yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, no, no. That, that does not sound accurate because I have never been that cool in my life. that sounds like regulate.

Patrick Aleshire (13:35.901)
Yeah, okay.

Patrick Aleshire (13:44.264)
Okay.

Patrick Aleshire (13:50.006)
You're right. That was, let me try, let me, let me try again and, bear with me. I have told this story so many times. I'm not making this part up. Everyone listening. I've told this story many times. I have typed it out. I've spoken about the story on a separate podcast. And so I actually went into my good friend and probably yours chat GPT and said, Hey, can you summarize the story about the ugly club?

Uggo (13:51.818)
Okay, alright, alright, good deal.

Uggo (14:12.204)
home

Uggo (14:18.058)
Whoa, hold on once here. You got sick of telling a personal story so much that you're like, I want a robot to tell it back to me so I can tell it again. I, okay, yeah. okay. So you used it to tell a story.

Patrick Aleshire (14:32.693)
It's very concise.

Uggo (14:41.794)
Concisely, which I am not helping right now by just making this segment longer. All right. Well, do tell us about that fateful evening.

Patrick Aleshire (14:45.553)
You

Patrick Aleshire (14:57.639)
about 20 years ago. Again, this is ChatGBT talking. You and Steve were out with your friend Joe, my brother-in-law, mutual friend of ours, at a bar called Boomers in Pewaukee, Wisconsin. Upstairs was a sports bar, downstairs a noisy club.

Uggo (15:09.453)
Mmm.

Uggo (15:19.826)
wait, hold on. No. Alright, so I don't necessarily believe that the top was a sports bar. And please, please, please, if anybody is listening to this, all one of you may be out there that has been to Boomers. Is it even around anymore? I don't know. If it's a part of your history,

Patrick Aleshire (15:24.373)
Pheww!

Patrick Aleshire (15:34.424)
Hahaha

Patrick Aleshire (15:44.21)
It is, it is not.

Uggo (15:49.334)
of going to boomers, please settle this bet. I still hold in my head cannon that it was a country bar on the top due to the amount of Toby Keith and cowboy hats and boots. And I swear NASCAR was on. And I feel like that's the perfect storm of a country bar.

No, the basement you're right was that was totally like a Jersey Shore club, which was like, just absolutely shocking to go from one to the next. Like I need to use the bathroom, you go upstairs and they're like, keep your hands like, Whoa, okay. And then you go downstairs. All right, so

Patrick Aleshire (16:33.621)
I

Patrick Aleshire (16:39.657)
Well, Steve, Steve, that's a good recollection. We may have been there on country night, but I am going to let you know my Google search has said in multiple instances, boomers, sports pub and grill is permanently closed. wait, plus country. You made it. No.

Uggo (17:00.502)
Alright, well then I-

Uggo (17:04.59)
Are you kidding? Seri- it does? Ohhhh man. Alright, you got me. Alright, I'm sorry. I interrupted chat- GPT's retelling of this fine evening, so I- I will-

Patrick Aleshire (17:09.769)
Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (17:19.135)
So yes, we were downstairs in the noisy part. While the three of us were hanging out in the club portion of this fine establishment, I love that it calls it that, you and Steve noticed a very attractive young woman heading your way.

Uggo (17:34.88)
I actually forgot chat GPT spit this out to you because when you said fine establishment, there was a moment in my head. I'm like, we've already said it's not around anymore, right? Like we're not like trying to get free drinks or something. So, okay. Okay. Yep. I'm sorry. All right.

Patrick Aleshire (17:52.756)
The two of you were shoulder to shoulder, expecting she might be coming over to talk. Instead, she extended her arms like parting the Red Sea, shoved you both aside, and went straight past to Joe, who didn't even know her. The re-

Uggo (18:12.98)
I, hold on. Sorry. Sorry. I told you the amount of interrupting is just going to be too damn high here. I don't think chat GPT can really just accentuate.

Patrick Aleshire (18:15.733)
You

Patrick Aleshire (18:21.447)
It's great. I love it.

Uggo (18:30.702)
how powerful the parting of us was. We were shoulder to shoulder talking, just like, really important is 20 somethings. And this woman just like, excuse me, and just took her hands in like the prayer shape, jutted them forward and just pushed us apart. Like we were just nothing.

Patrick Aleshire (18:56.489)
When you say 20 yards, probably a big shove, least 20 yards apart.

Uggo (19:00.75)
Well, that's where my ego went. Physically, the matter of feet. But my ego, I'm still hunting for it. Like, like knocked this sepirit out of me. It was just absolutely crazy. I feel like that's very important to this story.

Patrick Aleshire (19:17.991)
It was a jaw-dropping experience and not in a good way. Yeah. Yeah. Now...

Uggo (19:22.144)
Yes, yes, yes. I'm sorry, chat GPT. Please continue.

Patrick Aleshire (19:31.924)
The rejection was so blunt, powerful and dramatic, it bruised your egos and sparked a running inside joke between you and Steve, the ugly club. Over the years, you kept the bit alive through texts, chance run-ins, family gatherings and even LinkedIn messages.

Uggo (19:40.024)
See?

Uggo (19:47.532)
Yup. Yup.

Uggo (19:58.88)
yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (19:59.442)
trying to top each other with self-depreciating ugly club stories. Steve, nice guy coming up here, even saved your number in his phone as ugly Patrick Ailshire to keep the tradition going. Steve.

Uggo (20:04.334)
Mm.

Uggo (20:15.342)
There was also a bit of selfishness in there too, because I don't exactly have a ton of friends with the letter U. So it's like, oh, I gotta get a hold of Patrick. I just click the U or like what would that be the number eight on the dial pad and then it'll bring every up and then you're always the top one. You're welcome.

Patrick Aleshire (20:21.141)
Hahahaha

Patrick Aleshire (20:34.441)
Well, you in my phone, you are Steve console.

Uggo (20:40.716)
All right.

Patrick Aleshire (20:43.721)
The club has only two members, you and Steve. Joe, despite being the cause of it, I love that he is the cause of it, and was never allowed in. You joke he's too handsome, like a 90s Brad Pitt, to ever qualify.

Uggo (20:53.09)
He is.

Uggo (20:58.008)
truth.

Uggo (21:01.612)
Yeah, well, come on. He totally was like, that's not fair. Not was he is now he's silver Fox and my god time can't touch you. And at that time, he's just up. He was a stallion. I tell you. So yeah, he never know. There was a time we entertained inviting him in as like, like an honorary member. But no, no.

Patrick Aleshire (21:07.407)
is yes.

Patrick Aleshire (21:19.188)
Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (21:26.141)
honorary now

Uggo (21:30.114)
We basically gave him a fake certificate like, yeah, here you go. But we always knew he was never in. And I'm so sorry, Joe, if you're just finding out about this right now, not that you're listening, but if you were, you're just finding out right now, but you're not in. Sorry, bud.

Patrick Aleshire (21:47.985)
At its core, the ugly club became less about that one night and more about decades of friendship.

Uggo (21:55.008)
Wait, is this- sorry, is this still chat GPT going? Okay, I'm sorry, died. I- alright. I'm curious to see what chat GPT has to say about this. What?

Patrick Aleshire (21:59.145)
Yes

Patrick Aleshire (22:10.581)
my God, I just can't stop laughing.

Uggo (22:23.15)
Okay.

Patrick Aleshire (22:26.355)
While a nameless woman from boomers still lives rent free in your heads. Or am I reading your part? Did I highlight the wrong?

Uggo (22:32.918)
No, that's completely accurate though. This woman has. okay.

Patrick Aleshire (22:36.307)
Okay, I'll start this part over. Okay, I'll start that part. Because at first I was like, because I changed the color on the font. And so I was like, did I am I reading the wrong? Okay. So, okay.

Uggo (22:44.398)
got it. No, no, no, no, no, no. And I hope you don't mind my random interjections. Okay.

Patrick Aleshire (22:50.013)
Not at all. No, it's great. No, it's great. Okay.

Patrick Aleshire (22:57.481)
leaving blank space so I know when to edit.

Uggo (22:58.766)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (23:02.141)
At his core, the ugly club became less about that one night and more ab-

Uggo (23:08.076)
Wait, well, wait, I'm sorry. Hold on. Hold on. I'm so Wow. You're the one that started off by saying I'm gonna interrupt Steve a lot and I'm like hold my Zima. I'm gonna interrupt you a lot. Is this this is not still chat GPT like what year

Patrick Aleshire (23:29.535)
These are the words of a kind AI.

Uggo (23:33.542)
I can't wait for the robots to analyze what this night was about. alright, I'm sorry, I-I-yeah, what is this? No.

Patrick Aleshire (23:44.124)
It's, I love it, at its core. About one night and more, it's less about that one night and more about decades of friendship, humor, and the ability to laugh at yourselves. While a nameless woman from Boomers still lives rent free in your heads, never knowing the legacy she left behind.

Uggo (24:09.834)
Okay, I got to admit, that's pretty wild. But chat GPT has this thing, and we are going to talk about AI in a future episode. We've discussed that.

Patrick Aleshire (24:11.155)
Hahaha!

Uggo (24:26.158)
Chat GPT has this thing where it always wants to tell you what you believe you want to hear. Like if you're like, I'm debating between this and this by really like this, it'll always be like, you should go with that. Like it almost always tries to cater to the audience that it is talking to. So when this chat GPT meant well,

but the ugly cup has nothing to do with friendship or humor. It's all about us coming to terms with the fact that we were 20 somethings with hideously disfigured faces that we were just born with. And our only solace is October 31st every year. So chat GPT tried so hard, but I'm going to give chat GPT some credit though. The fact that it mentioned this woman.

Patrick Aleshire (24:53.173)
You

Patrick Aleshire (25:09.875)
Yes.

Patrick Aleshire (25:17.063)
Steve, but Steve, let, let, let, let.

Uggo (25:20.522)
is wild! That's crazy! Yeah, please!

Patrick Aleshire (25:22.259)
Yes, and let me interrupt you. Why, so we all know October 31st, it's Halloween, but why is that so good for us? I mean, it seems like.

Uggo (25:31.51)
Well, it's like the one day we're accepted in our like full form, like we don't have to put a mask on or like, people usually don't go running and screaming like in terror. They're usually like, wow, you must have spent a lot of time on that costume. And I'm like, know I did. And then they're like, wow, I can't wait to take a picture of you. Then they do. And then their camera breaks on their phone and then they mad. It's a story, but

Patrick Aleshire (25:48.295)
Yeah.

Uggo (26:00.61)
That's why Halloween's the best.

Patrick Aleshire (26:02.389)
Perfect.

Uggo (26:06.834)
That was so all right, folks. That's the very long winded version. I know chat GPT tried, but I I won't I won't let the robots win. Sorry. But yeah, so the whole idea that that's the whole concept behind this this podcast is that we are grossly competent. We try to be anyway. So, yep, you're now part of the Uggos.

Patrick Aleshire (26:18.27)
You

Patrick Aleshire (26:29.01)
You

Uggo (26:35.67)
We'll see about letting some others into the club maybe maybe down the road. I don't know. We'll find out. It'll be the first time we've opened the doors to the public. But you'll have to give us a really good reason. That's all I know.

Patrick Aleshire (26:45.589)
Yeah.

It's like we're finally gonna go public, like publicly traded. It's been a private entity for so long.

Uggo (26:54.254)
Yeah, we're, we're, we're IPO'd and our stock is just just self worth. And the you can try to get some like I want to be included in that then you're really just giving up your own self worth. So there's that.

Patrick Aleshire (27:00.629)
Plummeted it.

Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (27:12.777)
Well, our stock goes down, which is good. It's in the negatives.

Uggo (27:16.556)
Yes, yes. Everyone's collective stock gets worse. At least you can bet on that. That's good. So anybody out there that is interested in Wall Street bets, ugly club will be the ticket item. That's good. I have a friend of mine that's really big into crypto. So maybe I'll talk to him and be like, Hey, can you release a crypto coin of the ugly club?

Patrick Aleshire (27:21.662)
Yes.

Patrick Aleshire (27:34.698)
YouTube.

Mmm.

Patrick Aleshire (27:41.876)
Yeah.

Uggo (27:43.726)
And we can be some of those shysters No, I don't ever want to do that that sounds abysmal no, that sounds like an absolute nightmare Alright, so yeah, I think it's worthwhile telling that story because You're right. You and I have joked around about this for so long I am surprised some algorithm hasn't just combed like our LinkedIn messages and smell like

Patrick Aleshire (27:49.013)
you

Uggo (28:13.726)
Okay, there's a problem here guys. Like I think these two are actually insulting each other when it's like no, no, no, no, no We're not we're not trying to be mean to each other. We're trying to help each other out and just navigating this life

Patrick Aleshire (28:15.782)
Hahaha

Patrick Aleshire (28:25.491)
Yes.

Patrick Aleshire (28:28.903)
And the one thing I want to point out, which we're gonna bring up one more time at the end of the episode, and a little dedication, but Steve, I really like what you always had said when telling the story about how this woman that she doesn't even know...

Uggo (28:33.666)
Yeah.

Uggo (28:45.238)
Yeah, yeah, there. That's I think the the part that gets left out like it's the fact that this woman, this 20 something year old woman for the last 20 to I don't know, 20 some odd years has been the topic of conversation between Patrick and I, we do not know her name.

If she was to stand up in a lineup in front of us, she can be one of two people and I probably would get it wrong. Like, I don't know, do you remember what she looks like? Cause I don't. but she has lived rent free in our heads and she has been the focal point of so many conversations so much that I just love the fact that there is a point that I might be driving on the highway.

and I could possibly pass her or like be at a grocery store and she's the person that's in front of me or maybe she's working there. I love knowing that it's like this anonymity and she's just this ethereal character. I love that. All right, so now that now that we we discussed the finer details of the abnormal and whatnot

Patrick Aleshire (29:59.221)
you

Uggo (30:08.11)
We certainly have some ideas for some of the episodes that we want to cover on this show But we also really would love your input to Patrick and I have our ideas of what we think is really fascinating what's interesting But if you're gonna listen to us, we want to know what you think too What do you like about learning? What do you like about development? What do you like what training or what do you hate about them? What do you just despise? But on top of that

We also plan on just talking about random stuff that deals with being an adult too, just being an adult in the workforce, being an adult, just navigating the, the ongoing ordeals of the standard life. nothing wild and crazy on that, but, we just, we want to have some fun with this and we'd really like it if you would participate with us too, and tell us the things that you like.

To give you a little bit of some background and some of the things that we're going to touch on in probably the next 10-ish episodes, something like that. And if any of this strikes you as fancy, stay tuned. We plan on talking about the absolutely obnoxious LinkedIn posters that try to sound like far more intelligent than they actually are.

We're going to talk about AI and the state of learning and development and any other jobs that might kind of cross our paths. We're going to talk about learning and development models like Addy and stuff like that, self and group assessments. And we are even talking about having some guests on so you don't have to listen just Patrick and I banter back and forth. All sorts of cool stuff.

But yeah, please let us know what you like. We promise we won't phone it in all the time. Most of it, but not all. But we also want to hear from you. So please, we're going to give out our information at the end of this podcast. Please reach out, let us know something that interests you.

Patrick Aleshire (32:19.573)
Steve's social security number is...

Uggo (32:21.838)
Oh yeah, yeah, it's 8 6 7 5 3 0 9. Dang it. Got me good. Yes.

Patrick Aleshire (32:25.715)
Jenny, nice.

Patrick Aleshire (32:29.993)
Well, Steve, this is a perfect time in the episode to thank our sponsor.

Uggo (32:34.286)
Mm.

Uggo (32:39.699)
We have a sponsor? Okay.

Patrick Aleshire (32:43.081)
We do have a sponsor. This week, this episode, our sponsor is Wood.

That's right.

This episode is sponsored by Wood. Trees were like, hey, we're already doing oxygen, shade and squirrel housing. Why not also hold up literally every human structure ever? Wood, the original multitasker. You can build a house, carve a spoon, whittle away your free time, or just dramatically poke a campfire with it while thinking about your life choices. It's strong.

Uggo (33:13.954)
Ooh.

Uggo (33:23.214)
you

Patrick Aleshire (33:24.615)
It's natural and unlike your ex, it actually supports you.

Uggo (33:29.166)
I thought you were gonna go somewhere else with that and I was like boy I think we want to try to keep this PG. All right, well, it's okay.

Patrick Aleshire (33:30.271)
For-

Patrick Aleshire (33:37.107)
you

Furniture, guitars, toothpicks, pirate legs, wood does it all. Without it, we'd basically just be sitting on rocks and drinking soup out of our hands. So next time you lean on a table, strum a chord, or trip over a coffee table, thank wood. Wood, standing tall since forever. Now back to the podcast, which, let's be honest, would sound way better if you listened while sitting in a nice wooden chair.

Uggo (34:09.558)
wow. well thank you so much to that sponsor. My goodness. My father-in-law is quite the woodworker. I know right? I didn't realize that that was our sponsor this week. How cool is that? That's incredible. Do we have any other sponsors? I didn't realize we had one.

Patrick Aleshire (34:21.567)
Who would have thought?

Patrick Aleshire (34:28.458)
Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (34:33.397)
We have multiple sponsors in each episode. think they're going to be, you know, coming up. There might be, I heard, I'm waiting to hear back from our marketing people, but I know, I know couches has reached out. Photos, photosynthesis.

Uggo (34:35.255)
Ooh.

Mmm.

Uggo (34:44.05)
Okay, Wow big couch

Uggo (34:53.236)
Wow! How did we get such big name sponsors? That's incredible!

Patrick Aleshire (34:57.653)
And one of my favorites is this was a long drawn out process, we've got, and I don't want to share all of them, but we do have tigers on the lineup.

Uggo (35:08.2)
wow. All right. I'm gonna interject here. When do you want to do the spinner for the woman? that towards the end? The woman's name? That's what I thought you were originally gonna do.

Patrick Aleshire (35:20.607)
So we have, I was going to, and then I realized like, so I'm gonna move the sponsor to earlier in the episode. But I thought as I was like, I was going through my tabs here and I was like, crap, the sponsor. So yeah, so we will do the sponsor too, but I'll break up. I'll put the sponsor earlier and then we'll do the spinner like right around now. I think you.

Uggo (35:28.046)
Okay. Got it.

Yeah. good call.

Uggo (35:40.526)
Okay?

Uggo (35:46.9)
Okay, so do you I think I have you doing the spinner sponsor. All right.

Patrick Aleshire (35:52.077)
Yes. Yeah, I got like eight windows open, hold on a sec here.

Uggo (35:56.202)
No, no, no, you do you. You're all good.

Patrick Aleshire (36:00.022)
Do do do do do do

Patrick Aleshire (36:04.437)
Okay, so yeah, so you.

Uggo (36:05.464)
You know, I wonder if...

I was wondering if we do the spinner sponsor after we talked about this woman living rent free in our heads. You know what mean?

Patrick Aleshire (36:21.107)
Yeah, we could.

Uggo (36:21.816)
Cause it's like, well, that's a perfect opportunity for us to, or you can just even be like, you know what? I actually have a surprise for you. cause I mean, it wasn't a surprise. You just showed me last night. like I got this surprise for you. I knew we were doing this. I knew we were going to talk about this woman from boomers that we don't know her name. So I thought it'd be great if we try to guess it every week, like introduce the spinner. I don't know how, whatever you want to do it.

Patrick Aleshire (36:33.811)
Yeah. Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (36:47.283)
Yeah, that could be weird. Because we all have to find a good time each episode to...

Uggo (36:52.214)
Yeah, yeah, I like it towards the end like and you know, thank you so much to our new sponsor Patrick Why don't you spin that wheel show us who our sponsor is? It's abigail like Abigail, of course it was like whatever

Patrick Aleshire (36:54.995)
Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (37:03.199)
Sure, sure.

Patrick Aleshire (37:08.693)
So I think we're gonna, but we're gonna, think we wanna use the word dedication because the sponsor we wanna do, who's sponsoring us is Wood. We wanna have the word, our dedication. We wanna have Wood. We wanna have our dedication. So each episode we will also dedicate to a fine young, a fine woman's name.

Uggo (37:13.934)
Mmm, that's right. Yes. Yeah.

Uggo (37:25.642)
That's it. Yes.

Uggo (37:32.587)
Mm-hmm. I like that. Yeah. All right. How do we want to do you want to introduce that? like this week Like I think somehow you need to or we need to Yes, I think so yeah Yeah, I'm just trying to think of how if you have something in mind like on how to introduce it but I think it's worth kind of explaining like

Patrick Aleshire (37:39.797)
Sure. can, yep. Okay. Should it go before the outro? Yeah. Okay, good.

Uggo (38:01.804)
The fact that we talked about this woman that lives rent free in our heads due to like she started the ugly club

Patrick Aleshire (38:04.467)
Yeah, okay. Yep. So we'll say, yep, we'll say the afore, the aforementioned woman that lives rent-free in our heads. We are gonna have a special dedication each episode. And this week, do we wanna like say it's gonna be like spin the wheel or do we wanna?

Uggo (38:12.29)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Uggo (38:17.826)
Yeah, I like that.

Uggo (38:28.162)
Yeah,

Patrick Aleshire (38:30.837)
We're gonna.

Patrick Aleshire (38:34.771)
I'm sure, yeah.

Uggo (38:36.406)
I could look on that sound stripe, see if I can find one. Okay, then I'll pop it in the folder.

Patrick Aleshire (38:39.573)
That'd be great.

Uggo (38:46.03)
All right. So, I'll, I'll shut up. I'll let you take on.

Patrick Aleshire (38:51.785)
Well, Steve, before we kind of wrap things up today, I know you've got a few things you want to mention. I also want to bring back that, Afer mentioned woman that lives rent free in her head. We thought since, so again, we, we couldn't pick her out of a two person lineup. We thought we would do our absolute best to do each episode of this podcast, do a show dedication. And so.

Uggo (38:55.598)
Yeah.

Patrick Aleshire (39:21.269)
to cover all bases, I have thrown hundreds of names in a spinner. And each week we're gonna hit the wheel, spin the wheel, and we're gonna dedicate the episode to whoever it lands on. And I hope in the, by the time we hit episode 264, that we at least,

Uggo (39:21.762)
Go!

I see where

Patrick Aleshire (39:47.741)
have reached out and given a shout out to this woman because she deserves it.

Uggo (39:52.885)
I absolutely love this. It is our one opportunity to publicly thank her for everything she's given us on accident. This is great. All right. Let's see the wheel in action here. I'm pumped.

Patrick Aleshire (40:04.676)
Hahaha

Patrick Aleshire (40:10.099)
Okay, here we go. I am clicking to spin. Ooh, going around.

Uggo (40:16.494)
I like it. I like it

Patrick Aleshire (40:19.477)
And it has landed on drum roll Olivia!

Uggo (40:25.451)
Ooh, hoo.

Uggo (40:29.454)
Olivia, thank you so much for everything. We really appreciate you Olivia. So all the Olivia's out there or just the one in particular. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for everything that you have given us. You are amazing.

Patrick Aleshire (40:44.743)
Olivia, I am bowing to you, giving you my thanks. Can't see it, but this is amazing. So, really appreciate it.

Uggo (40:48.97)
this is great.

I can't think of a better way to wrap this up here. First and foremost, thank you so much for joining us on Grossly Competent. And if you like what you hear and you're thinking, wow, Patrick and Steve are like the coolest dudes ever, even though they're giant abominations, I would love to support them in some way. Well, we would love that.

With all of our heart, that'd be great. You can do that in several ways. we do have a patreon set up. You can come visit us at patreon.com Slash grossly competent all one word smashed together just like our faces. We'll also if we can maybe shove some Show notes on patreon too. I'll see about trying to take care of that for everybody. who let the dogs out?

Patrick Aleshire (41:32.785)
You

Patrick Aleshire (41:44.254)
Hahaha!

Uggo (41:48.846)
You

Patrick Aleshire (41:50.102)
Who didn't put her bark collar on today? Hey, Kelly, I'm recording a podcast with Steve. This is going to be bonus content if you want to support us on Patreon. Kelly, hey, come here. Stop barking. You're embarrassing me in front of the live audience.

Uggo (42:15.128)
Yeah, in front of.

Do you want me to redo that?

Patrick Aleshire (42:20.67)
Okay, we.

before she starts first. You can start with the, we also, the linking the show. You already said the link. Yeah.

Uggo (42:25.634)
Okay.

Uggo (42:29.817)
okay.

the girl see competent. Okay. All right. I'll start with the we'll see about linking. So all right, I'll give it like three seconds of silence and I'll fire up.

Uggo (42:44.216)
All right, and we'll also see about linking up some show notes into there too. So as if your ears couldn't hurt enough from this content, you can also read about it too. You can also follow Patrick and I on LinkedIn. If you want to take this thing a bit more professionally, it is Patrick Aleshire and I am Steve Council.

we are in the midst of trying to do some socials, but you have to give me a little bit because, I am a non-socials person. Maybe we can talk about that in a future podcast at some point. but last but not least. I can't tell you how much we would appreciate that if you actually enjoyed this conversation or one of our other episodes and you like the content.

whatever podcast program you're using, whatever platform, if you can give us a like or five stars of some kind, we would totally appreciate it. We genuinely don't care what you say about us because you're not going to hurt our feelings. Yeah. Don't like test the boundaries of our imagination by all means, but genuinely just

Patrick Aleshire (43:52.499)
Our ego has already been smashed and stepped on and...

Uggo (44:02.306)
giving us that like would really help us and make our days a little bit brighter. Patrick, did you have anything you wanted to add?

Patrick Aleshire (44:09.235)
Yes, however you end up getting your podcasts, you may have heard of Spotify, Amazon, Apple Music, iHeartRadio, Pandora is still around. However, little disclaimer, if you do download this episode on Napster or Limewire or Kazaa, we are not responsible for the adware for the Trojan Horses.

Uggo (44:18.318)
Mm. Yes.

Patrick Aleshire (44:39.101)
So please be careful out there on the interwebs, the www dots of the world. I don't want you to go back to the geek squad and say that you can't get into your TikTok because you have downloaded a Trojan horse.

Uggo (44:47.251)
my god.

Uggo (44:59.054)
Absolutely nobody under the age of 20 knows what you're talking about. Now that we've lost all of you. Thank you again, fellow Uggos, and we will see you next time. Uggly out.

Patrick Aleshire (45:16.71)
Out, peace.